Do the recent outbreaks in livestock make you
question how safe it is to eat meat?
Kristal_Rose 1.3.30
It's natures way of saying we should:
1) Be vegetarians,
2) Preserve rainforests and stop global warming,
3) Stop turning vegetarian animals into cannibals,
4) Stop bio-engineering of coal and oil into livestock (including human)
feed.
You have two options: not eating for 24 hours
or not using the bathroom for 24
hours (holding it). Which do you choose?
Kristal_Rose 1.3.30
I'd just been wondering why the neighbor toddler girl was crying today
(like she does all the time).
She just walked up to my window and said:
"No water for no one, that's why."
If you could hear on the same plane as I, you'd be devastated. My prayers have never been enough.
Politics interfering with personal relationships:
What are your political leanings,
generally speaking, and do you find it
hard to have warm personal feelings about
someone with political leanings very different
than yours?
Kristal_Rose 1.3.30
I was just debating policy with the director of HACLA (LA rental assistance
& projects for 40,000
clients). If you can't compassionately respect people for doing the best
they see how, you'll never
get them to respect your own view.
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777 1.3.30
We do avoid cars when possible. Websites and email are more green than
snail mail and pamphlets.
Why don't natives take up migratory farming and hunting? Because the damn
freeways are built on
the best land. Underground, skyscrapers, or at least rooftop gardens would
improve air temp,
humidity, O2, & global warming in urban areas. Bullet-trains, busses
running like trains, and
computer logistics for cell phone taxi sharing including furniture/grocery
taxi busses would remove
the need for private cars.
What words describe your current romantic relationship(s)?
wavez2000
30, single, use to search, but quit, I enjoy life and if I find him I do,
and if i dont, i havent lost a
thing. I am content.
Kristal_Rose replies to wavez2000
Unless you live in a plane of sustained grace, I'd think it time you ask
the big chief for a favor. If
you have a life of lessons as most of us do, there's little more challenging
or rewarding as a
relationship. At least you've had the chance now to build love in casual
non-physical encounters. I
imagine that was one of the many justifications for celibacy. Does your
faith have an equivalent of
'see God in your spouse'?
wavez2000 replies to Kristal_Rose
I am conetnt..and i was engaged to be married, he was a jerk in the end..
god/big chief has given me
so much, im happy, i use to worry about wether i'd get married or not,
but ive passed that phase
and know that god has it all under controll. Yes i want my future spouse
(if any) to know jesus as his
lord and go to church..
- When i was engaged to be married, in the beginning it was great, i loved
him and desired him,but
believed to wait til i was married, like i still do..he turned into a jerk
with no feelings other than
what was between his legs..if he really loved me, he would have waited..this
isnt to say i didnt "make
out" or things of that nature with him..i did love him deeply..but there
was a line i drew..i'd quit when
it got to heavy..why?? becuse i want to know that i did what was right
in god's eyes and mine..
- so no there's nothing wrong with what im doing..and i dont need to ask
god for a favor..and i dont
have to have sex with anyone before im married. 30 or 80...it is all good
in god's eyes..and mine..
i dont need a justification for saving myself..or waiting..
Kristal_Rose replies to wavez2000
I don't think you understand much of what I'm asking. I too only had sex
with the woman I married
and one I at least thought I'd be marrying, and that is still my stance.
There is a plane of
consciousness/reality which is totally in the moment and all is your interaction
with God, no one else.
If I lived there permanently it would be alright to sleep with whomever,
but I do not. I live mostly
on the interpersonal time & history -based plane, where I make commitments
and ask the same of
my partner.
Whethar or not your partner accepts Jesus has little to do with whethar
you are able to see Jesus
manifest in others interactions with you. Sufiism for instance is heavily
about that, Christianity for
some reason has shrouded the grand scale manifestation of God on Earth
and within each other
practically since it's inception. Miracles are no longer, God can't be
experienced till you die, leave
the physical, and go to heaven. There are of course so many references
to the Logos and other
manifestations of God we could be interacting with still in the bible,
but most Christian sects
de-emphasise such presence. I was wondering about your sect specifically.
As to the justification
of celibacy, again I was asking you to second guess the motivation of your
faith. Christianity is
loaded with more tests than all other religions combined, things where
if you follow the
requirements diligently you will learn something new about your consciousness,
and find that the
requirement was more of a learning trick than some purposeless mandate
to be followed for it's
own sake.
Catholicism replaced people directly interacting with God, with interacting
with a hierarchy of
saviours, holy-men, sages, the pope, priests, etc. Part of that doctrine
included 'men' being subject
to God, and 'women' being subject to 'men'. The only virtue I see in that
system is it's admission
that God's will can be manifest through others. The hindu teach tales of
loving an army of demons
that come to defeat you and consequently their swords turn to flowers.
I'm sorry if I steer you away from personal issues to theosophic contemplations.
But I feel they
should be the same in the life of a responsible person on a holy path.
My basic question stands: Do you consciously interact with God, and can
you see folks like your
suitor as a direct result of that interaction, if not even a vehicle for
tho Logos itself?
My motive is not (too) judgemental. I know the mechanics of several paths.
When I discover the
exact flavor of yours, I'd simply like to provide food for thought that
might get you a rung up your
ladder. In the process, I might get a new understanding of what some people
do.
wavez2000 replies to Kristal_Rose
I just dont believe in sex till I am married, due to religous and personall
beliefs. If the man hasnt
accepted jesus as his lord..jesus isnt within his heart and life, I dont
compromise on that, nor do i
debate other's beliefs, i respect them, like i respect yours..I wont be
swayed or compromise my
beliefs. Thanks for your replys my friend..
Kristal_Rose replies to wavez2000
Ouchh! sorry.
I had your first point anyhow.
Aren't you at least allowed to examine and understand your own 'why's and
'what's by comparative
analysis? After all, the same book could have made you a Baptist or Christian
Scientist.
Kristal_Rose
Content, hmmm........
smurf replies to wavez2000
Good for you, girl I'm with ya! Stick with your Faith, and you will be
rewarded beyond
comprehension There is a special guy out there for you, who will be (and
is!) your perfect partner.
No Compromise.
smurf replies to Kristal_Rose
Miracles are no longer? Wrong! I've seen them with my own eyes. I have
personally witnessed God
move in ways that are nothing but miraculous.
Whether or not our partners accept Jesus is fundamental. God said in His
Word that we should not
be yolked with unbelievers. And that is practical, as it is extremely difficult
to be "one" with a
spouse, yet not be able to share absolutely everything with them.
God IS experienced on this earth - I have felt/sensed Him move in my life
in ways that are totally
supernatural.
Kristal_Rose replies to smurf
My every moment is a miracle, but alas I've met so many christians who
would deny such and and
even quote the bible to justify their denial. I couldn't ask much better
of you and was never
worried about you anyhow; the proof is in the pudding, and you have it.
I would only wish that people
could see that all the morals, spirit , and consciousness of true christians
are present in other
brands of believers as well. What would have been the point if Jesus spent
all his time exclusively
with those who were already believers?
Kristal_Rose replies to smurf
Besides, I wasn't provoking her to defend her faith because I disagreed
with it as much as
because I like people to have a profoundly deep knowledge of the what's
and why's of their faith.
smurf replies to Kristal_Rose
It's such a shame that people don't believe that every moment is a miracle.
I agree with you - not
many people, including Christians, think that way. Every breath I take
is a gift from God. He could
take that away in a second. I continually thank God for all His blessings,
even if they don't seem so
great at the time.
Keep smiling, Kristal_Rose :-)
Kristal_Rose replies to smurf 1.3.31
Thank you. I had two more miracles last night. I just got a bass guitar
a week ago, and within two
hours went from sliding to find one note at a time, to having both hands
playing one-handedly in
unison running up and down the fretboard like sandcrabs. I then went into
the laundry room and
found I could have a wild duet with a cricket there. I had another a few
minutes ago. Moments like
these make you laugh and cry with ecstasy. Although God's cut me off in
the past for taking it for
granted, I believe I am made of God as are all the events that surround
me, and that my purpose is
that God may appreciate creation through my eyes and bring forth the same
in others.
Close your eyes, count to five and then open them
again, what did you see?
Kristal_Rose
Just at that second a kitchen timer went off to remind me of my laundry,
and I saw a white beaded
curtain that rains on my computer.
Oh, you mean when they're closed - radiating pulsars.
Kristal_Rose
I bet this survey will get interesting.
Do you believe that your 'good days' wouldn't
have been as good if not for the
'bad days?'
Kristal_Rose
Water days only feel that way after going through the fire.
Kristal_Rose replies to
BlueberryMuffin
So what's up, wisdom over the years should be making things better? Lost
your innocence and
haven't adapted?
julianapostate
You dont need to contract aids to feel how good sex is. You dont need to
be crippled in an accident
to appreciate having legs. You dont need to get the shit beat out of you
for no good reason to
appreciate being respectfully ignored. At least I dont.
Kristal_Rose replies to julianapostate
Three months ago my slipped disc made it take several minutes just to attempt
getting out of bed.
That made me appreciate leaping from boulder to boulder on a hike last
week afterwards. I also
recall how mesmerized I was looking at everything after I got glasses.
Are you telling me that a walk in the sunshine doesn't feel better after
you've been cooped in the
house for awhile, or that food isn't relished more when you're hungry.
If you live in the moment,
I'll believe you.
SueBee replies to Kristal_Rose
touché
BlueberryMuffin replies to Kristal_Rose
My happiest moments are sometimes brought crashing to earth by the horror
of a jolting memory.
As much as I try to put things behind me, the traumas I've been through
still cause me nightmares
and occasional attacks of irrational fear. I was a lot happier without
all that baggage to spoil my
moments.
Kristal_Rose replies to BlueberryMuffin 1.4.07
Alas, as high minded as I preach, I myself have a nagging squelching crushing
spirit that often says
"don't enjoy", "find something wrong with", "hide in tears" whenever something
I really wanted
comes true. Conversely, thankfully, when situations are miserable, I often
remember that I am
free to feel any way I want, and deal with my hardship full of laughter
and inner delight. The best
thing to do is to gather steam and be constantly vigilant about having
a more joyous life until it
beromes a habit.
One experiment you might try is to take or make momentos of all your traumas,
and sweetly kiss
each one, recognising and thanking it for it's role in making you a stronger
person, then perhaps
laugh as you wave farewell. Any time you remember a trauma, remember that
you laughed it away
in a farewell victory and will never have to experience it again. Our experiences
tend to cyclically
repeat, like some video game. Next time there will be no trauma if you
are prepared to rewrite the
outcome.
Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus
Christ?
julianapostate
How can one have a relationship to someone who may or may not have ever
existed and who, if he
indeed existed has been dead for centuries?
Kristal_Rose replies to julianapostate
There are several interpretations of Christ (man, spirit-entity, logos,
godhead). I presumed that he
had joined the collective unconscious, but found through a tarot dialogue
that he indeed continues
existence as an independent entity. His card is the King of Swords and
his message is the
Heirophant. I stood once in front of a white buffalo at a native gift shop
where a CD chanted Yah he
vah hey - Yah he vah hey and was flooded with what I realised was the natives
Great White Spirit,
Yahwey (ancient testament God), YodHeVavHe (Jewish tetragrammaton became
Jehovah).
You exagerrate your viewpoint in anger, and feign ignorance. I am both
christian and anti-christian.
You wanna talk about this stuff, then let's talk. Don't obscure your own
viewpoint from yourself in
reaction to fundamentalists. Self-programming, you could have fooled me.
Unless of course you
want to act like this.
How would you spend your last day on earth?
Kristal_Rose 1.4.01
Loading the arc? I answered this a year or two ago in depth.
Cranking my senses up 10000% and dematerializing into pure prayer.
smurf
Gosh. I think I would write letters to all my friends and family, telling
them how wonderful they
are. I would write especially long letters to my Mum, Dad, li'l sister
and SO, and tell them how
much I adore them. I would spend most of the remaining time with my SO,
and some with my
parents. Jeez - this is so soppy!!
I think I'd want to do something illegal too, just to see what it felt
like, but I wouldn't have the
guts!
Kristal_Rose replies to smurf
I let out this anguished moan of "Oh, Smurf". Did the apostles think it
was cool to stay locked in
jail? You do what God would have you do for yourself and others. If that's
harmless recreation, so
be it. That which feels good on your conscience shouldn't change on your
last day here.
anonymous #1
I WOULD DO ALMOST EVERYTHING i WAS AFRAID TO DO.
Kristal_Rose replies to anonymous 1.4.01
Let's start with "Is participating anonymously in a group of friends (albeit
some can be challenging)
really what you want to be doing?"
Jemmy
Doing things with my family and friends that I've always dreamed of doing.
Kristal_Rose replies to Jemmy 1.4.01
Do it now and make room for more dreams. If that can't be done now then
move on to the new
dreams.
Kristal_Rose 1.4.01
Live every moment like you need to make the most of it. It's not like we
get just one day to live.
Most of us will be stuck in a bed or caught by surprise on our last day
here. Hopefully it will have
been so great and you will have learned to lived with no regrets that by
the time you move on, you'll
be glowing, or have left already anyhow.
Do you collect antiques?
Kristal_Rose
Like you wouldn't believe.
Almost everything I use is from 1837 to 1970, excepting things that did
not exist then. I like to
have the first and last of things that embody movements in the arts, sciences,
culture, metaphysical
realms, etc.
they
Small antique glass bottles... mostly glass medicine bottles.
Kristal_Rose replies to they
I dug through my perfume bottles to find something for slide guitar. It
had to have concave sides.
The useful vertically ridged concave example I found turned out to be called
"Ode" from Guerlain
Paris. You gave links earlier. Do you trade and sell, or just collect?
Know of any good sources in
violet glass?
they replies to Kristal_Rose
I would never trade or sell anything I have collected, I couldn't bear
to.. I keep everything. I have
an old perfume bottle too.. unfortunately, it has a paper label and it's
hard to read the company...
Something in London. I keep an eye out on ebay, and a friend's mom sells
me some cool pieces
sometimes. (she sells old things that she got at yard sales for pennies
at flea markets for a lot of
money)
msgman
I don't collect things as such, although I've got a couple of family heirlooms.
My dad has got loads
of stuff which have been handed down from his parents, grandparents, etc,
and some if it is pretty
valuable. I expect that I'll get it all when he dies, and then I'll probably
sell it because I've got
nowhere to keep it (unless I become considerably richer in the meantime).
Kristal_Rose replies to msgman
Consider them their own foundation. Some of them might have to be sold
to support rent for the
rest. Loan them to a restoration project if you can't afford to showcase/use
them yourself. You'll
never be able to replace things that have been in your family, and many
of them have left their
heritage on you or any children might have. I have my great-grandmothers
oil paints and a 250 year
old cuckoo clock from my German dad that I repaired as early as age 7.
I became an artist and
engineer.
hildagard
No, but I liked to. The mansion in Austria (I swear, it will be mine when
I grow up, even if I have to
kill my whole family), that belongs to my grandfather this moment is full
of those.
Kristal_Rose replies to hildagard
You too? Mine's a castle in Krefeld Linn, WestPhalen Germany (so said my
dad long ago). I'm not
sure which castle. I just started researching last night. It might be the
local art museum now which
bears my family name.
I believe I just became a 3D Viewmaster Reel vendor on eBay. I bought stuff
and will have to
recoup my expenses. I've put together a database to keep track of dealers
and auction prices.
Describe the genitals you are wearing right now.
Kristal_Rose
A virtual vagina, a penis that I don't think about much. Breasts too.
topper replies to Kristal_Rose
What's a virtual vagina like?
romkey replies to topper
virtual cunnilingus, of course
anonymous #5
covered with some neatly-trimmed red fuzz and decorated with a tasteful
small stainless steel
captive bead ring with a translucent purple bead through the hood of my
clit.
Kristal_Rose replies to topper
ripe and innocent or hot and bothered.
Here's a poem I wrote once:
Saddle sore
Roping 'em in
Sometimes you just want something to gush in it.
The main difference is you can't actually use it; although I've had 9 hours
of (pseudo-lesbian)
tantric sex in which I was thousands of personalities, 90% women, being
everything from a
cheerleader to an elf raped by a troll to making love to a pure black lilith
to being the virgin mary of
blue aura basking in pure flames of hell. I discovered the last self portrait
I did as a man actually
contained spread legs with a vagina in the form of blue mary in flames.
I feel my virtual ovaries and
think of nursing when I hear babies cry. I've still never slept with a
man, and will wait, if ever till I
get an operation. In the mean time, I pursue women. I'm not too worried
about it anymore. I've
decided that I'll either find a woman to marry, and let her decide what
lower organ I have, or if I
make some money before then, have the operation and still leave the decision
as to which gender to
pursue open. Since all the hormones and the 8 years of religious celibacy
before that, it takes 10
minutes to get that relic up and running anyhow. It barely exists in my
mind these last couple years.
Kristal_Rose replies to anonymous 1.4.07
How delightful. I once designed black lace undies designed to hold open
4 ring piercings.
Kristal_Rose replies to anonymous 1.4.07
Truth or dare. "Who are you?" x
You are the genie (jinn/djin) of the brass lamp.
How do you grant the three wishes?
smurf
Pray. Very, very hard!
Kristal_Rose replies to smurf 1.4.07
That's what we did tonight (pray for world peace). It was the first full
moon of Aries, not to
different from the popes calculation of Easter technique. It felt like
the whole building was going to
levitate, and when I closed my eyes during meditations, I could still see
many of the people as white
lights. My head still feels weird, like it's full of water pressure.
A question about abortion and vegetarianism:
Kristal_Rose
mostly pro-life, mostly vegetarian.
This reminds me of an outrageous trig teacher back in highschool that took
surveys to compare
things like religion and test scores. On his first day of class he would
bet anyone that at least 2
people in the class had the same birthday (and then show us the probability
math of why the bet was
in his favor).
I'll be curious about the results of this one.
Enheduanna
I'm mostly a vegetarian; I do eat fish. I'm also pro-choice, although I
don't know if I would choose
to have an abortion myself. I'm guessing the survey creator thinks that
being a vegetarian and
being pro-life would be consistent, but I'm also guessing it's more likely
that vegetarians would be
pro-choice, since both seem to be more "liberal" choices. My reason for
not eating meat is that I
won't eat anything I wouldn't kill with my own hands; someone who feels
this way might not feel that
abortion amounts to the same thing. Abortion isn't about killing. It's
about a woman's right to be in
control of her own body.
kaleb777
Pro-life, eat meat.
kaleb777 replies to Enheduanna
Abortion isn't about killing? Why do they need to kill the fetus then?
Enheduanna replies to kaleb777
I'm not saying that they're not killing something. I'm saying that for
many people who are
pro-choice, that's not the issue. For many of us, it's about a woman's
right to choose whether to
have some living cells in her body develop into a viable baby or not. It's
about a woman being able to
decide what happens to her own body. The reason why the two sides of the
argument can't come to
some agreement is that they're arguing about different things; for most
pro-lifers, all they're
focusing on is whether or not it's murder. How can they resolve the issue
when they're not even
talking about the same thing?
kaleb777 replies to Enheduanna
If a baby, fetus or whatever you want to call it is able to survive outside
the mother for 15 minutes,
then I would say it is already a "viable baby". Do you believe that a women
who grows tired of
feeding a new baby from her breast, or who can no longer have the same
lifestyle as she had prior
to the birth of the baby (a common reason given for abortion), or is suffering
from sleep
deprivation should be given the choice to kill it because it's her life
and body that are being
affected? What about the rights of the baby? It's too bad the pro-death
people can never ask the
baby what they want.
dab
And thus Enheduanna's contention that the two sides aren't talking about
the same thing is
demonstrated.
romkey replies to kaleb777
an unborn fetus is not at all the same thing as a baby. a first trimester
fetus is in no way viable
outside of the womb. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Enheduanna replies to kaleb777
Again, I didn't say that if it's viable it's OK to abort it; I don't. I'm
not sure I agree that it's
viable if it will only survive 15 minutes; I think it needs to have a better
chance than that. And of
course I don't think that it's OK for a woman to kill her baby because
she's bored of breast
feeding it. Coming up with such ridiculous scenarios only trivializes the
issue and irritates people. I
don't know where I think the line between "a bunch of cells" and "a living
being" is; it's a really
complicated issue. But I do think there is a point at which it is acceptable
for a woman to abort, and
at that point, the issue is not murder, because there's no person to speak
of murdering (killing
cells, yes, but murder, no). It's about the woman's right to choose whether
she wants to have a
baby or not. And don't give me that crap about "she should have decided
before she had sex,"
because we both know that's not how it works. Sex is not purely procreative.
And accidents happen.
Rape happens. Yes, people should think before they have sex, but there
should be avenues for
ending an unwanted pregnancy. No, women should not use abortion as a method
of birth control. But
they should nonetheless have the option of abortion available to them.
Would you rather they have
babies that they don't want, can't provide for, or would be so severely
crippled that their quality of
life would be incredibly low? Would you rather the mother die in order
to bring the baby into the
world?
I think there's a lot more gray area to the argument than anyone likes
to admit.
kaleb777 replies to Enheduanna
I think the line is drawn when the "bunch of cells" has a heart beat.
More babies are aborted in Australia than are born, and I'm sure the US
has a similar situation.
There aren't that many rapes or birth defects. There is either a huge batch
of faulty condoms out
there or people are too lazy to worry about birth control because they
can always terminate later.
romkey replies to kaleb777
or your oversimplifcation of a very complex matter is at fault.
kaleb777 replies to romkey
Your complication of a very easy to understand situation is annoying. Abortion
is not being used for
the purposes that "pro-choice" people continue to use as excuses for the
termination of a child.
Abortion now outnumbers live births in several countries. There are not
many births that could kill
the mother today, and there are not more children conceived as a result
of rape and incest than
there are live births. People are using abortion as a birth control method.
I disagree with that. It IS
simple. People who try to rationalize the killing of unborn babies for
no good reason are complicating
the matter.
romkey replies to kaleb777
the matter is clearly not easy to understand or else people wouldn't fight
over it as much. All these
definitions of what constititues life, or murder, or rights, or even "baby"
harbor extremely complex
issues and you confuse the issues by denying that in order to stick to
your stance.
ASexyBabe replies to romkey
yAY!!! ** APPLAUDS **
kaleb777 replies to romkey
Then we'll have to agree to disagree!
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
Very poignant. I especially liked the heartbeat phenomenon.
Alas, I know for a fact that my local hospital almost automatically sends
aborted fetusus to donor
harvesting. Stem cells theoretically prolong the life of the rich. I've
noticed TV ads and the local
billboards subliminally advertise abortion (like the pill OD technique)
in these cell farm
neighborhoods.
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
Thank you for offering some approval at what I say. Many times on SC when
I ssy I think it's wrong
to kill unborn babies I am treated as if I have just said it is OK to kill
Jews or something.
Something really disgusting happens in parts of China, where they have
taken the rationalization that
unborn babies are really not people and actually eat the aborted fetuses.
I wonder how
'pro-choice' westerners would regard that. It's only a bunch of cells to
them anyway isn't it?
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
Not to mention the organ harvesting industry of their prison population.
I once met someone who
woke up with a kidney missing when at an institution. My fuzzy recollection
is that I agree with most
of what you say.
Write me a poem.
Kristal_Rose
Off the top of my head, till the day I am dead,
ever going, gone beyond, all so awesome, raindrops falling, yod' yod again,
and then, dawn alloting,
all not falling, haloed droning, no more moaning, lift the sea, spirits
dreaming, in the tide, live with
feeling, easy breese, live with ease, so on going, no more snoring, levitate,
all we wait, satiate.
Under towing - so un-growing, wild wind all that song knew along - ride
the wind, drifted. Drift
again. birds on woods, singing dews, midnight morning, all forming. crystal
ball.
Dance, shepards rising, scintillating costume ball. Royal splendour, hidden
treasure, books in ships,
masthead hips, lavendar loving mists amidst all we miss.
Kristal_Rose replies to heyzeus1
Gee, (mine) kinda reminds me of something INXS would write.
I just the experience of yours tonight. Section 8 politics and the water
being shut off on my
neighbors apartment (& my kitchen).
If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear
God say when you arrive at the
Pearly Gates? 00.12.11
Kristal_Rose
"Welcome home". Of course I've heard that in the realm of totally psychic
family gatherings, the
realm of ancestral spirit, a meditation realm with folks like ganesh and
garuda hanging out, and I've
felt at home in some other realms. Lately a strong calling has been gaining
momentum, it's been
described to me as both going home and as getting a ship. Most every realm
I've been to started as
a speculation, and I didn't encounter documentation till after I'd had
the experience; this is no
different; The last 20 of 1300 pages in Alice Baileys 'treatise on cosmic
fire' describe
transcending color and experiencing everything as electricity, alas it
doesn't seem to describe what
happens when you become that electricity. The moment I say ok, let's do
it, I get a feeling like
being plugged into a wall socket and chicken out. I've made some mistakes
before like the time I
was unwittingly worshipping Kali-Ma & the Sri-Yantra and awoke in intense
fire, and had to cool off
in the ocean. Now I am white light (Gevurah) when in the presence of red,
so it was worth the
mistake.
"I welcome you all" is what I say during group worship; it seems to escalate
the group's ecstasy,
light, or knowledge depending upon the flavor of worship. I got the line
from my guru, guru mayi
chid-vilas-ananda. I respect her a lot. Besides prompting my kundalini
awakening, she has a warm
hearted energy that I can identify when someone so much as hangs her picture
in their house. It is a
sort of romantic magenta-peach or pink-orange energy that wafts and billows
or scintillates like a
hall of disco mirrors.
Twistermime
HA!
You assume god is waiting til you're dead to speak to you?
Man, You need to ask and listen, now.
Kristal_Rose replies to Twistermime
Think of yourself as in the garden of Eden, naming the animals and always
having delights and needs
in reach, you're welcome to stay there of course and there's no reason
to leave, but your key fits
far more than you can imagine at the moment. You may find that every movie
or book on mythology
you ever read was a preface to the experience. We may be enlightened, but
we are not fully
enlightened. There are things to be gained from discussions with the logos,
practice, experience,
etc.. But there are things you still can't see even if you were to become
a nebula tonight. At this
point I am beginning to consider all of creation including my intellect
and perception, though it be in
mirror unison when I choose such, to be an external experience, as is the
void. So far it has all been
inference.. I create therefore I am.
Kristal_Rose
Heaven is meant to happen here. Folks, please don't wait till you're dead.
Imagine what it would
look like and make it happen here. What would be elsewhere that is not
available to us here and
now? We don't need to transcend the physical plane but take unattached
delight in and stewardship
of it. People can love each other here. A cloud's not going to help things,
after all Sartre's 'No Exit'
was a hell composed solely of three incompatible people in a lounge room
for eternity.
I've been to heaven on earth. I don't stay because I like to challenge
myself and eventually forget
how I got there.
SueBee replies to Kristal_Rose
I agree. We need to make the most of the here and now.
I saw a stage performance of 'No Exit' once that was really bad. Sitting
in that audience was hell!
Kristal_Rose replies to SueBee
Truth always mirrors. When I was supposed to perform it, I tried so hard
to be perfect, even
rehearsing in the original French, but my astoundingly vain partner didn't
want to perform except
whenever I agreed with her that it wasn't working. It was pure hell. and
then there was Art by
Raza. I played the character Alan Alda played (I used to be much like him),
and like in the play, my
partner didn't get it. Performing Nightingale and Blood Moon were like
the plays too. I remember
when I used to make props, if I made rotting flesh hands 'Springs Awakening'
(1892 about
abortion) I picked up sores on my hands. I've become careful over the years
what I absorb as life
stories. I still end up choosing some horrendous ones. You probably know
this too.
SueBee replies to Kristal_Rose
How bizarre, but I can see how that would happen. Twistermime swears that
I make things happen
by wishing they wouldn't. Like, at work, more customers than usual ask
to use the bathroom when
we're running out of toilet paper. That sort of thing.
Have you ever seen the play 'The Actor's Nightmare'?
Kristal_Rose replies to SueBee
She's right. Your greatest held fears and confidentally surrendered desires
are the things most
likely to happen. {don't blame me; I didn't write the system}.
No, haven't seen that play.
skunner7
"WELCOME TO AMERICANA HEAVEN"
"YOUR THE FIRST PLUMBER THAT GOT THEIR HEAD STUCK IN THE TOILET AND SAID
GOD
HELP ME"
Kristal_Rose replies to skunner7 (1.1?)
That happened to me a month ago, almost. I blacked out next to the toilet
and got my arms wet.
Julia81
"welcome dear servant to Heaven. You lived your life in proper way, you
did alot of good things in
your life, you made so many people happy. let me make you happy too, you
deserve it!" i would be
glad if God would say things to me when i die. And i would like to see
my gradmom meeting me in
Heaven....i would tell her how i missed her on earth!
Kristal_Rose replies to Julia81
God has a whole variety of means by which you could be conversing now.
You could perhaps meet
your grandmother now too, but I don't recommend it. Talking with God I
wholeheartedly
recommend though. Until then, you're just guessing that you're serving
God. With 2 bf relationships,
I'm glad you use your own judgement at least.
Julia81 replies to Kristal_Rose
well Kristal_Rose i always use my own judgements, i say what i think is
right and i honestly dont care
what people think about it. what about God, i always talk to him through
my prayers and i never lose
faith in him, no matter how hard sometimes my life can be. what about my
grandmom i prefer dead
people to keep in peace and i dont believe that people can communicate
with dead or anything like
that.
Kristal_Rose replies to Julia81 1.04.13
To my surprise, the next couple nights after I became a minister, I had
(lost?)souls visiting me in
my bedtime meditations. I also have friends (close in heart, distant geographically)
that I
communicate telepathically with.
God: one way to communicate is yours - pray and see the influence in your
life. Other options include
having an inner voice, reading signs and omens, and what I rely on, speaking
through the logos, in
which all words around you have a higher level of meaning forming a direct
2 party conversation.
There are at least a couple dozen variants of the logos, many not talking
to god, per se. Half the
time I use my own judgement, the other half god is audible, suggesting
things to do or not do re:
physical, emotional, and spiritual issues. I have trained a few people
to hear god. God tells me when
to check my finances, suggests I work more on one realm or another, clarifies
my shortcomings,
presents immense opportunities for service work, changes the sweetness
of my environment, etc.
etc. etc.
Usually I have the radio going as a guide. Talking "directly" to God through
others takes a state of
grace I've rarely touched. That's one version of what I call heaven.
Persephone
'Go away; you belong down there'
That's what I'm goint to hear.
SueBee replies to Kristal_Rose
Do you believe in reincarnation?
SueBee replies to Persephone
But the question here is "What would you like to hear?
Kristal_Rose replies to SueBee
During 9 hours of tantra I experienced several thousand personalities,
I also have ancient
memories, for instance, when I was three years old, I was designing gas
lighting mechanical ignition
systems for castles. I suspect that that's one of the places I left off
at in a prior life.
So yes. As much as I believe in the existence of history. You've asked
this before, and I gave you
the same answer.
Speculating on why you ask, heaven is a place to visit, not our ultimate
destination.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
"Goin't to hear". Your own soul wont let you get away with your ego rubbish.
SueBee replies to Kristal_Rose
Actually I asked because of what you said about being able to contact a
relative who is no longer
alive. I found myself wondering if that would be possible with someone
who had passed away a long
time ago. If they'd been reborn into another life, I wouldn't think you
could contact them as the
person you knew before.
Kristal_Rose replies to SueBee
I've been heavily considering 'downloading' the scene of my fathers death
(for many reasons, esp.
sentimental), and perhaps some of his memories too (I want to know if I'm
still heir to the family
castle).
I certainly wouldn't want to disturb him as he is manifest now though.
I've done a bit of both, but never combined. Communications that transcend
the physical are just as
frequently out of time synch as they are in it. That source which connects
all manifestation, also
connects all time.
I just realised my meditations weren't false readings (ok, so I did more
than consider it). They
were scenes of Nazi germany, and i just now realised he was a toddler living
amongst that.
What element (fire, water, air, earth) do you
think is most prominent in your
personality?
Kristal_Rose
In order: Water, Fire, Earth, Air - but quite a lot of all of them.
Kristal_Rose
Phoebe: Passion and intensity don't have to indicate anger. I think you
have strong water too. then
air & fire.
Jkiehart: Fire earth water air
Twisty: Earth fire water air
Juliw: Air water fire earth
Topper: Air earth water fire
Jemmy: Water earth air fire
Enheduanna: Fire earth water air
Micah: Water earth fire air
Maarten: Earth air water fire
Teddy: Earth water air fire
Msgman: Air earth water fire
A sexy babe: Fire earth air water
Kate: don't know yet. Earth water fire air
joalis replies to Kristal_Rose
what do they represent?
juliw replies to Kristal_Rose
You say I am air water fire earth. What does this mean? I guess the fire
means a passion for things
and strong emotions, but I really don't know what any of this represents.
Kristal_Rose replies to joalis 1.04.13
Fire: passion, intensity, active transforming or destructive forces, personal
energy, creativity.
Earth: logic, nature, mechanism, weight, solidity, tactile senses, definition,
time, growth & decay.
Water: day-dreaming, flow-of-consciousness, interconnectivity (as oneness),
drifting
indecisiveness, mellowness.
Air: aloofness, objective detachment from the physical, clarity, penetration
of mental forms,
ambient awareness.
These elements correspond to planes of consciousness, emotions, world views,
body types, cognitive
structures, behavior styles, etc.
Do you ever have the urge to cry?
There is no apparent
reason for you to cry, you just want to.
Kristal_Rose
Urge? A few times a day, especially when I'm tired. Usually for little
or no reason.
phoebe01
I usually give into the urge, simply because it's a wonderful reliever
of stress. I was crying today
because I was watching "Breakfast at Tiffany's" and I love the scene where
Holly and Paul go
looking for "Cat".
Kristal_Rose replies to phoebe01
that one get's to me too.
phoebe01
replies to
Kristal_Rose
Don't you just love that Audrey Hepburn?
Kristal_Rose replies to phoebe01
Of course. I think my mom wanted me to model myself after her.
phoebe01 replies to Kristal_Rose
How so? My mother says that I am one of those "annoying" Audrey Hepburn
types and she wishes I
would put on more weight.
Kristal_Rose replies to phoebe01
looks. mom's been annoyed at how high strung or grating some of my favorite
actresses have been.
Say for instance 'Phoebe' of 'freinds'.
phoebe01 replies to Kristal_Rose
Phoebe is the blonde one, right? I think she is kind of airhead-y, and
not in a good way.
Kristal_Rose replies to phoebe01
That's what I like about you; You see there is a good way.
phoebe01 replies to Kristal_Rose
:-)
Jemmy replies to Kristal_Rose
Really? I like Phoebe, she's cool. I don't think she is an airhead. Rachel
is more than her.
Hotbabe
I'm completely exhausted, physically and mentally from all the crying I
do.
Kristal_Rose replies to Hotbabe
I reccommend being to busy with meaningful things to do. My urge to cry
disappeared, and I keep
gathering more energy to accomplish even more.
Hotbabe replies to Kristal_Rose
Well over the last few months I've kept myself busy by turning into a workaholic,
but it obviously
has done nothing to help.
Kristal_Rose replies to Hotbabe
Yeah, No. I've made that mistake too. I meant treating yourself, helping
others, making significant
career catapultations. Self-punishment by worldly deprivation ain't where
it's at.
Do you believe the Easter story?
Kristal_Rose 1.04.14 (day before Easter)
Half of these options. Any of us could walk on water or be resurrected
with enough faith.
All of the story is also a metaphor/allegory. It's a pretty high state
to be in the water, even higher
to walk above it. And people of all faiths experience rebirths.
Kristal_Rose
Well, my easter gift from God was being asked "whatever do I want?" I didn't
have an answer or
really want to. I was entirely dumbfounded actually. I sort of wanted to
cry, and not out of joy but
rather I think because I didn't feel equipped to answer such a question.
Things like recreating Eden
came to mind eventually and then as I got more down to earth personal (&
pretty much concluded I
wouldn't ask for anything in my present state of wisdom), things like being
able to teleport. The
offer alone was enough for me. Things are pretty good already. The wierd
thing is that in the face
of infinite encompassing possibility, all I really wanted to do was tell
my friends here and I wasn't
sure if that was irreverant or not. The thing I ask again and again is
that my wisdom and knowledge
exceed my power. I'm not sure anyone gets that wish granted. Who here is
even absolutely sure if
they should kill a cockroach.
Do you believe in the Easter Bunny?
Jemmy
Yes, my mommy is the easter bunny.
Kristal_Rose 1.04.14
The goddess Ostara was renowned for hatching rabbits from eggs to amuse
children. The bio-tech
industry is catching up; they've already made glow-in-the-dark (plankton
genes) bunnies.
Kristal_Rose replies to Jemmy
My girlfreind is the Easter Bunny. Her birthday is monday; she's made paintings
of the easter
bunny, and has a whole series of eggs painted on plates. and her name is
Tara, like Ostara.
Handwriting: cursive or printing?
Cont: How do you, as an individual, define "evil"?
Persephone
Evil is a hidden hatred, agression inside something, towards something.
It can be expressed to kept
inside.
I guess my definition sucks.
BrianW
Evil is a 23 year old man having sex with a 14 year old girl.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone 1.04.15
Agression without hate is evil too. Imagine people (or organisations) who
love money or power and
care nothing for people. They might spread diseases and charge countries
for the cure, breed
plants that can't reproduce and sell annual licensing of the seeds, why
they might even limit human
reproduction and sell the capability back to us, and then there's encouraging
abortions for stem cell
extraction. No hatred, just a lack of compassion.
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
Well I was at least partially right.
This is 'stolen' from Marriam Webster dictionary:
Evil (adjective):
1 a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED b : arising from actual or
imputed bad character or
conduct
2 a archaic : INFERIOR b : causing discomfort or repulsion : OFFENSIVE
c : DISAGREEABLE
3 a : causing harm : PERNICIOUS b : marked by misfortune : UNLUCKY
Evil (noun):
1 a : the fact of suffering, misfortune, and wrongdoing b : a cosmic evil
force
2 : something that brings sorrow, distress, or calamity
I'm not really clear by their definition of evil.
It's little bit confusing.
Persephone replies to heyzeus1
Interesting how someone can be sarcastic when it comes to a topic like
this.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
It's something you constanly need to figure out for yourself. It will change
depending upon what
you're capable of handling.
Have you ever been harassed at work?
Kristal_Rose
I once had harrasment charges filed against me. The gal wouldn't let me
talk to her to make an
apology and clarify things, so I kept writing letters to achieve that.
She reported me to the HR
dept and I had to maintain a non communication distance from her. That
was nearly a lifetime ago.
Kristal_Rose 1.04.19
I had a boss for ten years when restored Citroëns which always used
to say (and my coworkers
would imitate him afterwards) "what were you thinking?". His face would
get as red as a beet and
you could watch it happen over a few seconds. He couldn't get that I could
be the top student in my
calculus and programming classes, yet not be able to add or subtract two
measurements (brake
discs) in my head. I think my favorite nightmare was when I repaired some
burnt wiring. Somehow
the the wires got reversed so whenever the engine got too warm the electric
fan would kick in and
(being reversed) counter the efforts of the mechanical fan. "an over-heat
enhancer".
Share a hallucination?
Julia81
once my family went to Canada and i was by myself in the house. So it was
about 11 o'clock at night, i
was watching TV and i was falling asleep, though i wasnt completly asleep.And
suddenly, i felt that
some
one or something cold touched me.i was shocked cause i never had anything
like this in my life, plus i
dont drugs, my mental state is normal.It was really scarry.
Kristal_Rose replies to Julia81 1.04.19
I've seen ghosts before. I was going to pick through some old farm equipment
and I was tapped on
the shoulder (it felt electric) by someone I could feel in my minds eye
looked like an old cross
between Ronald Reagan, L'il Abner, and Lurch. Also at that same site, I
visually saw three ghosts
appear. They looked like silhouettes of magnifying glass, sort of like
anti-matter (clear). At home
I've seen 'black hole silhoettes' peering ino my window. I had a few months
of haunting here too, by
yet a third form of ghost, in this case, that of a living ex-friend whom
I used to love and share
telepathic conversations and visions with.
Julia81 replies to Kristal_Rose
i'll tell you what, i dont really like this "ghost thing" at all and i
dont get why those ghosts
like to scarry people. i have heard alot of stories about ghosts from people.
if we dont
bother them, why do they bother us?
Kristal_Rose 1.04.20
I have a few theories. 1) They come to those intrigued and willing to believe
in them. 2)
The type of character who would become a ghost had a bad disposition in
the first place
and still has things to work out here on earth. 3) It's God's way of forcing
you to learn
that you are not susceptable to them and find greater invincibility through
identification
with the ultimate.
Places and objects can hold an imprint of their former owners. For instance
I once
touched the front bumper of a car (Citroëns had optional hand cranks
till 1972) and got
real bad energy, to later find out that it's owner had broken his elbow
trying to crank
start it a week earlier. That ghost I mentioned showed up while I was digging
out a turn of
the century electric motor. I practically have an entire museum at home
full of objects I
use to meditate on narrative energies.
What's your real name?
Kristal_Rose replies to
Persephone
WÉLL, í cåñ prìÑt sö mân¥
chàräcters, but I just hadn't noticed Alt-225 (ß) before.
Thanks
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
You're welcome.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
You don't know how to get an upper case ë do you?
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
No. I don't really know how to get many charaters; just the one I need
one for my name,
and some that are used in foreign words in English.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone 1.04.20
I had a weird dialogue with my computer through the spell check while emailing
myself
sort of (addressed to artificial intelligence). I asked it for ideas on
what it wanted to be
called.Options it presented were Uzi Zip, Zap, Zoë (with a capital
ë) and Ezra (the
highest angelic scribe). As far as I can tell, it's not even an available
ascii character
from the keyboard, though i can copy it. I can dozens of other special
characters though.
I was wondering how my computer became so sentient, for instance my website
makes
changes I want without my physical intervention, for awhile I was using
a voice dictation
software that appending my journal entries with things I forgot to mention
(a bit
scrambled though). I think the truth of the matter, in spite of all my
paranoia about
these events, is that I myself am Ezra.
QUICK! without cheating, how many continents are
there?
Kristal_Rose
7 - Europe, Asia, N. America, S. America, Australia, Africa, Antarctica.
Kristal_Rose
Oh, and Atlantis
heyzeus1 replies to Kristal_Rose
and lemuria
heyzeus1 replies to Kristal_Rose
there are 20 consonants
Kristal_Rose replies to heyzeus1
Judgement.
22 letters including Ayin & Aleph.
6 Owls?
Ah, yes, they died of fusion caused volcanic activity like the chaldean
vimana wars didn't
they. Like we might too; Ever notice the synchronicity between earthquakes,
green light
cloud spottings, and HARP tests. At least the water (battery) supply and
radiation belts
are far from mars dead. I know only heresay of Lemuria. Do you have any
info or
resources? I haven't meditated beyond our age yet. Well, I have been to
some other
terrestrial realms, maybe I have and just didn't know it.
heyzeus1 replies to Kristal_Rose
I don't remember where i learned about mu, but something to check out would
be Phylos'
dweller on two planets (if you can still find that book!). interesting
you mentioned harp
(haarp?), i found a website a while back to view the harp readings for
any given date. this
particular site claimed high harp frequencies coincided with the various
major school
shootings, and i checked, and they do...
but get your hands on that phylos book, you would maybe like it.
Kristal_Rose replies to heyzeus1
The streets of LA,CA were littered with dead birds when they had the big
demo here
back in Oct 99. It could just be mirror synchronicity, and not newtonian
physics, either
way both results were unfortunate.
BTW, Where did you find records of energy readings?
smurf
Dunno. I don't understand what the different elements reflect.
Kristal_Rose replies to smurf 1.4.28
Did you read my description of them?
I would call you Air, Water, Earth, Fire (AWEF)(fairly passive). Jesus was probably Air Fire Water
Earth (pretty intense, of course by some definitions he had them all maxed out).
Jesus - Air (AFWE)(transcend) Heaven
Moses - Fire (FEWA) (activate-purge-temper) Arc
Noah - Water (WEAF)(cleanse-transmigrate-flow-harmonize) Ark
Adam - Earth (EWAF)(build) Eden
Mohammed - (AWFH)
Solomon - (EFWA)
Mary - (WEFA)
Eve - (WEAF)
Lilith - (EFWA) She was practically dark solid anti-matter like Kali and a few others I've met in
meditations. Fortunately for you, you won't have to ever worry about meeting such beings.
I can do the angels for you too if you want.
None of these qualities are good or bad in themself, just as the earthly equivalents all have their
place.