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Would you take the job or allow a minority to have it?
1.5.11
Which of the following are in your yard?
Has anyone ever wrongfully accused you of being a bigot?
1.5.17
{harmony with enemies, singing animals}
What's your real name?
1.5.24 {Hebrew angelic script}
What's your current employment status?
1.5.26
Do you weigh more now than 5 years ago?
1.5.04
Should devices be put into schools, theatres, etc. that can
jam a cell/ mobile
phone so it is unable to be used? 1.5.13
Would you take the job or allow a minority to have it?
1.5.11
Say you are a member of what you consider is your culture's dominant social group,
racially and sexually. Your country has a law that states that although you cannot be forced, you are requested to
offer your new position to a member of a minority group if the current workforce of the company
does not proportionally represent all sexes and races in your country. Would you accept a new job that you need, or offer it to an equally needy minority?
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
I don't understand this question. If you are offered a job would you offer it to someone else
instead? Do you get another job in it's place? Are you suggesting that the wealthy not work
so others can? Did anyone get this question?
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
No. I mean if you went for an interview, and got the job, but were told that the races and
sexes of the employees at the company are not proportional with society in general, and you
had the option of forfeiting your position so that a minority could have it, would you?
It's completely hypothetical. It's assuming there is no forced affirmative action, but people
are given the option if there are not enough women or whoever working at the company to give
their new job to an equally needy person from a social group that is not well represented at
the company. Gee that sounds complicated!
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
I would take the job. As an employer I might strive for diversity, if it did not mean a
sacrifice in resources. I don't think that should be mandated though. I do think school is a
place where affirmative action should occur, and not by just letting people slipping through,
but by overly concentrating more attention and resources on them until such time that college
and employment figures reflect equality in socio-economic stature.
I've always been one to straighten shelves at the grocery store and such, then recently I've
come to realise that unless I do such things as a direct interpersonal favor, that in this
culture, I am merely depriving someone else of work when I could be doing more important
things. I'll still clean the alley or do other service which is not anyones official job. I see now
that if you reduce the workload somewhere, the company will reduce the staff. It's still true
that when my girlfriend leaves unwanted groceries in the wrong aisle that she is increasing
the cost of groceries for the rest of us. I am a socialist, but our economic system is not.
If I need a job, and am offered it, I will take it. If someone else gets it, I will praise their
good fortune knowing that I am destined for something more suited to my own needs. Charity
is not about sacrificing your own needs, but rather recognizing that you let go of things
without attachment when they will serve someone else better. When I give away things I
don't use, I have both the delight that someone else is appreciating them, and that most likely
something new will come to me after I've forgotten it. This seems all rather off topic. The
types of work I apply for are usually highly specialised engineering jobs. It would be
disservice to the employer to give the job to someone without the training they hired me for.
There was a time when I felt that I had become 'too soft', so I went back to work at the
fast-food restaurant that I had gleefully endured years before. All I really learned was that
it was better to take advantage of my educational blessings then suffer through false
humility. In my time, the place had been college kids, later it had become poor career
hispanics who resented my return presence there.
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
I always used to clean my table in food courts in malls because I hate having other people
clean up my mess, until I was asked politely one day by a cleaner to leave it because it gives
her something to do and if it appears she is on top of her job they will give her extra, maybe
cut the cleaners in the food court from three women to two or something.
I wonder if this survey reflects peoples attitudes to affirmative action in any way? I've
always thought that it degrades those who it was supposed to help. Many Aboriginal people at
my job are called "window dressing" and are never given any responsibility, they are just
there because the colour of their skin gives the company some brownie points. I think it's a
shame. They are often ignored, and wind up doing whatever they want.
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
Oops, I always clean the restaurant tables too.
I think the aborigines culture should have been preserved with a wide berth around to
protect it. Those few who preferred to try modern civilisation should have been given top
college degrees.
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
It doesn't matter what the European culture in Australia does it will be condemned. If we
modify Aboriginal culture in any way we are condemned, yet if we decided to leave them the
way they were 200+ years ago we would be condemned for that too. Remember, Europeans
did not arrive in Australia in 1770 with cars, freeways, computers, TVs etc. Non indigenous
people have had to adapt to change as well, and at first contact both peoples had to rapidly
adapt. Imagine the Aboriginal people suddenly finding themselves living with new people with
different cultural ideas about property ownership and just about everything else calling the
shots. Imagine the fear when they witnessed a member of their family being shot with
weapons they had never seen. Imagine being killed for hunting one of the strange animals the
white men brought with them, when animals were always free for everyone. Imagine seeing
your people die from diseases you have never seen. Now imagine a British convict taken from
his family for stealing food, enduring an 8 month voyage in the stinking hold of a ship, being
whipped until his backbones showed through permanently, arriving in a country they have
never seen where the seasons are reversed, where trees shed their bark but never their
leaves, where there are poisonous and strange animals of every description, and where
heatwaves of more than 120 degrees can blow in from the desert. Both peoples had to adapt
and change. I think it's wrong to continually make excuses for only one group of people.
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
Have the groups ever met in these past centuries to agree on some sythesis of values and
application? Obviously you will have to forego snowy Christmases.
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
No. Governments did what they thought were for the best at the time and people of all races
suffered. Aboriginal children were taken from their parents if it looked as if they weren't
being taken care of. 160,000 British children were exported to Australia to populate the
colony and were told their families had died when they still had family in the UK. With
hindsight it's very easy to criticize, but who can tell what grand purpose those people had in
mind. You're right, no white Christmases. It's cold meats and salad on the verandah for my
family at Christmas. There are white Christmas celebrations in the Australian ski fields in
June and July, but they're only a gimmick.
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
Woody Allen captured our town at Christmas, convertibles amongst palm trees. Did I mention
that I sent off my résumé in response to a local ad for 'Tribal Administrator' for a local
tribe. It appears to be exactly what I was hoping to find when I got the paper. It doesn't
pay much, but then that wasn't a priority. It turns out that this particular tribe once lived in
the same places I wanted to create 'urban renativization districts' out of.
Kristal_Rose replies to Twistermime
As I said before, education, not the work place, is the place to administrate affirmative
action. An employer should wish to hire someone with a better education, or the same
education but willing to work for less (since their college was subsidized). You keep doing the
plan until minorities have equally reached management positions and can afford to send their
own kids to college. According to the latest census figures, blacks continue te be
disproportionately under educated in the US. Hispanics are doing better than before, but
still bad.
I remember living in Oakland where my neighbor was doing all she could to to get her
daughter into a better school. She was in the third grade and couldn't count to twenty. On the
bus to work in Moraga, I was surrounded by kids three years older who were discussing
SAT's and choice of colleges. There wont be equality till their is equality of parental
grooming. These poor cultures don't even seem to realise that wealthier cultures are
constantly preparing their children for what is expected in adults of their culture.
I also think affirmative action is one of those few things that needs done on a national
socialist level. No individual, or even a basically private business should be responsible for
picking up the tab. That's a bit like asking an engineer to give $40k of their yrly income to a
fast food employee. I wouldn't mind if they did pay the same, but asking an individual to make
that sacrifice is much different.
kaleb777 replies to Twistermime
It's hard to say, but if two white men went for the same job and were equally qualified, only
one of them can get the job and the other can't use his race as a reason. Not everything
comes down to race. I think people have to realise that sometimes they are not employed
because they are not right for the job, not because they're white or black or whatever.
Unless it was very obvious that an employer was eliminating all people of a certain race I
don't think there's much to be done.
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
In the end, isn't it the responsibility of the individual? I once read that the poorest group of
people in the US are whites along the Appalacia Mtns. It isn't about race. If White people are
looked upon as one group they may appear to be all better off than other races, but Bill
Gates is white. If people are looked at with a regional viewpoint a different picture emerges.
Perhaps if people are means tested, not race tested for positions?
Twistermime replies to kaleb777
Yep. I'll laugh when Undesirable Personality is added to the group of protected minorities.
kaleb777 replies to Twistermime
What about 'inability to wash self' or 'failure to obey simple instructions'?
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777
I've taken my highly professional skills and charged minimum wage for them, partially because I was against the idea that very hard working people with no knowledge of educational or other opportunities are impoverished by those who are paid in proportion to their ability to exploit. I've concluded that my personal sacrifice did not help me or anyone else.
I don't get what you mean by 'means tested'. Theres no point in applying affirmative action to a prince of Uganda. It would be incredibly difficult to administrate "You had foolish parents, well make it up to you." Though you could simply give college grants to people who's parents had no college. Still, is it a waste to send a person to college who grew up with "well, truck drivers don't get shouted at as much as janitors", rather than someone who grew up with "If you get into media marketing, make sure you get a good lawyer." As far as 'means testing' in hiring goes, I sure hope you aren't suggesting "Well, you'll never figure the job out, you're hired!" Personally, I quite relate to a Kurt Vonnegut story 'Harrison Bergeron', in which everyone was equally handicapped. I was the guy who had a distracting buzzer go off in his head whenever his high IQ had just about realised something important. If by individual responsibility you mean that people should find their own means to prosper, I don't see that they have a fair chance given their conditioning. I've had to accept that people are not created equally in either their social or spiritual environment conditioning. I was just reading a pamphlet called 'Angels on Earth' sent to a neighbor who moved. It was full of stories of life inspiring miracles on an order that occurs hourly around me. It was saddening that entire cultures look up for hope to that which I consider routine. I liken it the caste system. I suppose that the right thing to do continues to be to lift people up, but it also seems that except when one enters realms which make such stratification irrelevant, that it's never going to go away. Ladder climbing is the game here, perhaps eternally.
kaleb777 replies to Kristal_Rose
I don't know if the term "means testing" is a common one outside Australia. Here
it means that certain benefits are given to people who are financially poor. No
race or sex considerations are made since people of any race can be very poor.
This does not take into consideration people who became poor through their own
stupidity, by gambling or drinking. I think only God is able to look into each
person's heart and determine how they arrived at their present situation, but
"means testing" seems more fair than simply looking at the colour of a persons
skin or whether or not they were born with a penis to determine how the wealth
should be more fairly distributed.
Kristal_Rose replies to kaleb777 1.5.19
What does it apply to? Work, school, or what?
The US is unquestionably a welfare state. I managed to get through most of junior college with california grants that cover registration fees.
Oh this is cool! One of my friends is live on the radio and I'm playing along with her band on my bass. Fun Fun Fun. They just threw in Siouxsie & the Banshees 'Kristine, the strawberry girl'. I'll have to call her when she gets home.
Which of the following are in your yard? 1.5.19
Kristal_Rose
Cool list. Only the compost pile and a few trees and bushes (banana, aloe vera, bottle-brush) so far,
but that will change. I'd like all these things to be there. I'll have to get a chiming virgin elf sundial
and a bird bath kiddie pool pond (space is at a premium).
Kristal_Rose replies to dabprovin
Au contraire. It's like a graveyard for Scarlett O'Hara & King Kong. I've caught rides with the film
crews before, but they're heading to places out of town usually. Santa Monica is where the industry
hides now.
dabprovin replies to Kristal_Rose
Still,it's gotta be more interesting than where I live...In the middle of the HOT desert,with a bunch
of Yuppies.
Kristal_Rose replies to dabprovin
So where exactly? Perhaps one those places I saw on the map last night when I was looking for any home in california under $70k. Most of them had Native or nature names which seemed a good sign. Corona or Perris? How is it in a place like that. Here, one can go 2 miles and go from yuppies to rasta-psychics. In SF, you can 4 blocks and do the same.
dabprovin replies to Kristal_Rose
Do not relocate to Perris! That city screams for reform & self improvement.Corona is kind of a cool
place to live I suppose,considering that I've only driven through it.Plus the fact that they hold the
annual "Renaissance Pleasure Fair",makes it Way cool in my books.I live a little further down the
215 free way.Actually where the 15 & the 215 (Y). I live in a city that is growing by leaps &
bounds(but not in their liberal views)called MURRIETA.The sister cities are
Wildomar,Temecula,Menifee,French Valley,Winchester & Bear Creek. These cities have a pretty
much laid back atmosphere to them.Wheeew,Bear Creek is way out of my price range.Sun
City,Hemet,Lake Elsinore,Perris,Romaland,& Homeland are other out lying cities around
me.Menifee,Murrieta & Temecula are in my opinion the "Yuppie,Mini van/SUV,self righteous,my s***
don't stink,It's all about ME,Bible belt capital cities of Riverside County.Uuuuuuuuuhh & I live
here.I feel so displaced!!This is such an up-tight city.It was that way when we first moved here 9
yrs ago,& it's getting worse.I hate it,but we can't move,if we could I'd like to move to a charming
LITTLE city called WINCHESTER.It's so quaint.I guess Hawaii is much like S.F.very liberal in their
views towards just about everything.Except for the way the "AINA"(the land) was taken from
them.That is an on going touchy issue with the Hawaiians.
Kristal_Rose replies to dabprovin 1.5.24
One cozy listing was for a house in Lytle creek near another junction of 15 & 215 somewhat between Hesperia & San Bernardino. It's near wher I believe the Faire to be now at Glen Helen Reg. Park. I was an actor in the Northeren California Rennaissance faire through most of high school. I would kind of like to see something between that, neighborhood co-ops/communes, indian reservations, evolve. That's somewhat outlined in my address at the LA housing council of which I am a member. The paper is posted on my web site under the heading urban renewal. Ok, our chats are too right-on to consider as distractions. John wayne land has never attracted me before, but I figure there must be something of personal interest out there.
Kristal_Rose replies to dabprovin 1.5.24
I would think of it somewhat as a failing if I moved into the country rather than restored nature to a place like LA (organic river bank farms, garden roofs, garden blvd.s, working mass transit, self-sufficient micro
economis, etc.)
Has anyone ever wrongfully accused you of being a bigot?
1.5.17
Twistermime replies to Oscar
If you sugar coated your comments do you still think you'd be wrongfully accused of being a bigot
here?
ASexyBabe replies to Twistermime
Even if bigot I mean Oscar sugar coated her comments they would still be reallly bad and she would
still be a bigot in my eyes.
Oscar replies to ASexyBabe
Do you not have balls enough to make comments like that to me?
Are you scared I'll judge you?
Kristal_Rose replies to Oscar
Asexybabe was simply responding to a comment twisty made. In one sense it is talking behind your back, but we all know you're here, and expect you to defend yourself if you're so inclined. Her point seems that if you were to have a bad attitude, but sugar words, people would see through what you really meant, regardless. Contrary to what you might think, people here don't have a problem with your opinions (we generally agree to disagree) nearly as much as they have a problem with the way you take it all as a personal attack, and attack back. That last acost of asexybabe was a perfect example. People get angry about anger. I know you feel you are 'right' in what you do here, but step back and take a bigger picture: "What do you want to be at SC for?" I would hope to enjoy yourself, make friends, and share views; not to attack and be attacked. I grant that no matter how civil you are about portraying your viewpoint, that if it resembles pestering, people will still get annoyed. In those cases I recommend dropping it and switching to another topic. Have you ever known a person to change because someone was angry at them? Usually it only fortifies their position. Most people here like to debate, not to argue. We also like to explore each other.
You know a few of us a lesbians or such here. You should realize that your anger will not change that. We already know what your opinions are on the matter. We are not trying to make you a lesbian. When another lesbian announces themself here, you can present your viewpoint again as being a person who defines themself as being against that newcomers lifestyle, rather than say, a person who shares their interest in singing animals. Most of us would probably be happy to share fun stuff with you. You can go through life being friends with everyone, including the ones who's opinions you disagree with and discuss. For what it's worth, I suspect asexybabe probably finds your comment humorous. My guess is that you have been subject to judgement yourself and that has become a familiar communication pattern for you. If you want my opinion on what will you make you happier in the long run, then let it go. You could go many directions from here: You could mellow out until people forget their grudges against you, You could apologize to people now, You could let it all build up and get worse until you have a major crash in your life, repent, and rebuild from scratch. Whatever feels best in your heart is probably the way to go. It's quite sweet to apologize, be forgiven, and make friends with those who could have been your enemy. It takes more courage to be in harmony rather than be at odds with the world, but the rewards are far greater too.
SueBee replies to Kristal_Rose
Do you actually know of any singing animals?
Kristal_Rose replies to SueBee 1.5.25
It was meant to be a humorous example here, but yes, I actually do.
Let's start with talking animals:
All of my life I have been able to speak telepathically with aniamls.
My cousin has a macaw that actually converses. Until I met him, I presumed birds only mimicked speech. She was so proud when he learned 'we'. Not much of a vocal challenge but a vast conceptual challenge. I learned 'we' then too. It was during my major breakthrough to an interactive spiritual plane that was everyone, not just God and I.
Earlier than that was my old cat Zero. I was able to communicate with him vocally through the radio. But he also picked up a second vocality to his mews. He sounded much like a person talking, though we could never make out a word of it. It really freaked us out.
I try to speak all the time to my (big) kittens (much like talking to babies). Of course, we have the telempathic bond, and they know all their calls (we go on moonlight walks together all the time). For instance I had to explain why he couldn't pick on the baby possum. I said things like 'Happy kitten, happy possum' (trying to get the karmic compassion understanding going).
So, singing animals. Volt sings in the shower (So did zero). He has quite a range, but I don't get the melodies, if that's what they are. I do try to get duets with him, and try to impart and compromise on the melody thing.
Now, my actual experience. I was having a mystical experience in which I was learning to pluck notes on my new bass, and wihin two hours, both hands were running up and down the fretboard like sandcrabs. It was fantastic, I even caught it on tape. The fingers tapped, hammered, scraped, plucked, slid, bent, dulled in such a beautifully harmonious relationship with the radio. I was doing my laundry too. When I went down to the laundry room, there was a cricket. I decided to improvise some singing to his chirps. To my astonished joy he improvised back, and we got quite a jam going. The next night I did it again, just to make sure it was still real. I've heard of this before. On the radio a flute musician spoke of his experience in which he was at a pond and got the frogs to accompany him in 4 part harmony.
And of course everyone knows of singing birds and stupid pet trick acts with a dog or something barking a simple meledy. I'm a singing animal.
What's your real name? 1.5.24 {Hebrew
angelic script}
Kristal_Rose
'Kristal Rose Phoenix McKinstry' since 1996 officially, (`93 before that).
I chose the last namo to match my mom's who is using her maiden name. I was born 'Thor André
Clemens'.
Kristal_Rose replies to Zang
and I thought '7 of 9' was a name. Do people ever mispell that last name of yours?
Kristal_Rose replies to Chance
So what do you have to lose? You know my name. What'ya going to do about it. the CIA, terrorists,
stalkers, or space aliens could read my name here. So what? I'll give out anything but my ssn#,
bank #'s, drivers license, passwords, or info about others they would insist on keeping private.
Enheduanna
That's YHWH, dear...
Kristal_Rose replies to micah
Well just call you Joda for short.
I spell vav with a 'v'. you can spell it with an 's' for all I care.
Kristal_Rose replies to Chance
fine 007.
you didn't need to respond to this survey either ;-)
micah replies to Enheduanna
::blushing:: You called me dear!
No way! Are you talking about 'Yahweh'? I was referring to that one thing that the King James
Bible translated as 'Jehovah', and is supposed to be substituted with 'Adonai' when speaking aloud
'cause it's so sacred. Those silly...
::just then, lightning strikes and Micah falls silent::
Enheduanna replies to micah
I can't tell if you're kidding or not (not about the lightning striking, but about the Yahweh/Jehovah
thing)! Yahweh = Jehovah. You want the full explanation?
Enheduanna replies to Freyja
It's not really that much of an explanation, I guess. I was just giving micah shit for using a "v"
instead of a "w." Jehovah is the German pronunciation of the divine name spelled "yhwh" in the Bible.
A "w" is more accurate than a "v" because it was pronounced (at least we think it was!) like a "w" in
ancient Israel, although in Modern Hebrew it is pronounced as a "v" (and the letter is called "vav"
now). The actual pronunciation of the consonants "yhwh" in ancient Israel is unknown. Apparently
people stopped saying it at a fairly early date, before the current system of vowel notation was
introduced into the written language (originally Hebrew was only written with consonants, hence the
lack of vowels in "yhwh"; modern Hebrew tends not to use vowels in writing either). The tradition of
substituting the word "Adonai" ("my lord") where the biblical text, or prayers, or whatever, had
"yhwh" took over instead. In all extant manuscripts of the Bible which contain vowels (so not the
Dead Sea Scrolls), the consonants "yhwh" are vocalized (i.e. contain the vowels) for the word
"Adonai," so that you know to read Adonai.
So now you might ask, "Well then, why do people say 'Jehovah' or 'Yahweh' if they don't know what
the vowels really were?" Those pronunciations are scholarly conventions, based on some reasonable
guess-work as to what the vowels might really have been. After all, it's a lot easier to say "Yahweh"
or "Jehovah" than to say "yod-heh-vav-he." And you might not want to say "Adonai" because that's
not what the text says. But the truth is that no one knows how it was really pronounced; most
academics just can't leave well enough alone and have to try to figure it out!
albert
Albert Hubert Friznick.
Here is a short narrative I have used before:
Albert Hubert Friznick. Las Vegas, NV. You now have enough information to find out my Address. You
could come to my house...And in the darkest hour of the night, you could burst into my home and slit
my neck while I lay sleeping. In all likelyhood... I would not even have a chance to awaken.
Then again... you could be "Jessica". You could find my address, and come to my door... tell me that
you have always loved me... that you wish for nothing more, than to spend the rest of your life with
me.
But I know that neither of these will happen, Because I have given you no reason to kill me... nor to
love me.
Kristal_Rose replies to Zang
Uh, yes. (Voyager). On my screen that's a response to 'fine 007.'. Most of peoples comments have
been coming lately in such a synergistic fashion for me. It's something I wished upon others here
that could use a wake up nudge.
Kristal_Rose replies to albert
Since when have people ever needed a reason to do those things?
Kristal_Rose replies to Enheduanna
I was thinking about those things when standing at a native american gift shop looking at some white
buffalo head like thing high on the back wall while listening to some native american chanting on their
stereo that went 'yoa(dh) hey - va(dh) hey, ya he - va hey, ya he - va hey...' I was flooded with the
'great white spirit' during this.
micah replies to Enheduanna
I love it when you do that...
Honestly though, I didn't know all that much about any of what you said. It was all meant to be
funny. You ruined it! Any more of that from you, miss, and I'm gonna unleash my godly powers in
your direction. Watch it! I'll Yod hey whatever ey you into oblivion!
Enheduanna replies to micah
Well, I'll just have to get you some books that spell it right!
micah replies to Enheduanna
That'll make me feel even worse about that whole christmas thing. I'll feel so bad if you do that!
...speaking of which, I'm making you an interesting CD for your listening pleasure. It'll give you an
idea of the kinds of music I listen to. It ranges from classical to death metal and I'm arranging it
so one merges into the other without you realizing it. You'll hear Vivaldi for a while, then the cookie
monster voice will come in out of nowhere.
albert replies to Kristal_Rose
You know Kristal, I was just mentioning in a long-winded post how insightfull you are. None-the-less,
I still think that in at least most cases, they have got a reason. No one says it has to be a good one
though...
spidertea replies to Chance
Woah- bite Kristal Rose's head off.
Lighten up.
Kristal_Rose replies to micah
I'm getting around to putting something similar together too. maybe we can burn a copy for each
other.
micah replies to Enheduanna
This polytheistic lifestyle sure is demanding!
Just remember that you are my one true love, and get priority over all others.
Does that please you?
Enheduanna replies to micah
*pouting*
Maybe... ;-)
Kristal_Rose replies to micah
Are you going to include the cookie monter's hit abaut Mana? I've been working up to compile
similar CD's off my vinyl too. Maybe we can trade.
Persephone
Ambrosia Ellen Weißan von Berger.
I have German ancestory.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
How on earth did you get that 'ss' charcter? It's not part of ascii; is there some way of entering
unicode charcters?
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
Hold Alt.
On the left keyboard, where the numbers are (make sure it's on) press 225.
= ß
Maarten replies to Kristal_Rose
æ and Æ are nice ones too!
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
WÉLL, í cåñ prìÑt sö mân¥ chàräcters, but I just hadn't noticed Alt-225 (ß) before. Thanks
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
You're welcome.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
You don't know how to get an upper case ë do you?
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
No. I don't really know how to get many charaters; just the one I need one for my name, and some
that are used in foreign words in English.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
I had a weird dialogue with my computer through the spell check while emailing myself sort of
(addressed to artificial intelligence). I asked it for ideas on what it wanted to be called.Options it
presented were Uzi Zip, Zap, Zoë (with a capital ë) and Ezra (the highest angelic scribe). As far
as I can tell, it's not even an available ascii character from the keyboard, though i can copy it. I can
dozens of other special characters though.
I was wondering how my computer became so sentient, for instance my website makes changes I
want without my physical intervention, for awhile I was using a voice dictation software that
appending my journal entries with things I forgot to mention (a bit scrambled though). I think the
truth of the matter, in spite of all my paranoia about these events, is that I myself am Ezra.
Persephone replies to Kristal_Rose
Have you tried to copy, and than to paste?
Or maybe, some programs, like MSword have symbols, and they tell how to make some of the
symbols.
Kristal_Rose replies to Persephone
I dug out my programming software. I can then use the asc() & chr() functions to get a hint on
whats going on. I have a chart of the first 255 chars, and it's not there unless I keep overlooking it.
Vamp_Angel replies to Kristal_Rose - Mid May 2001
Are you French?
Kristal_Rose replies to Vamp_Angel
Non, mais je parle en Francais. Actually, come to think of it, I have a French Grandparent (& a
german, irish, & scottish)
Vamp_Angel replies to Kristal_Rose
I thought you are French because of your name (Andre). I'm half French; my mother immigrated
from France with her parents when she was six. I don't speak French, but I would really like to
learn.
Kristal_Rose replies to Vamp_Angel
(After Andréas, mon grand-pere, oui) My son's name is L'ile Ambrose (the island of the immortals)
Cézanne Clemens. It's definitely a fun language with all it's archaic flourishment, and more verb
tenses than the natives are probably aware of. Gaelic is even more fascinating if you are given to
spontaneous poetry.
Kristal_Rose replies to Vamp_Angel
Oh, I just learned a few hours ago that my parents are in France on vacation.
Vamp_Angel replies to Kristal_Rose
That's so nice.
Good for them.
I'm not familiar with Gaelic much. I'm really eager in learning to speak Latin, though. I'm fascinated
with dead languages. Ancient Greek would be my favorite, but I don't have as nearly good base in at
as I have in Latin.
Kristal_Rose replies to Vamp_Angel
Gaelic (I barely knom any) is great not only for it's ancient romantic spellings seemingly from some
fairy dragon age but also because all parts of sentence structure are optional and can go in any
order: verb-subject, subject-object-verb, not just s-v-o like english. Objects are designated as
such by replacing the starting consonants, most have their particular replacement, with B it is M, so
you could say "Berkely is a nice town." "I live in Merkeley."
Hebrew is great fun too. Each letter represents an archetype of thought. The 22 letters match the
major arcana of the Tarot so you can do a tarot reading on each word that passes your way. This
was one the most structured mystic system of the word defining creation, sort of like the periodic
table of elements in sound and writing. I had one meditation while sitting at the beach in which I was
a bird on the shore. I looked at the stars and the constellations appeared to me as mariners
alphabet like that of the the phoenicians that could be scratched into the ground to write travel
directions. Latin is useful for being able to translate between languages.
Vamp_Angel replies to Kristal_Rose
I have really poor knowledge about Hebrew, but I like to way it sounds. Once, I can remember,
when I was young, I was watching a TV program about the Bible. They were saying how it's really
hard to translate from Hebrew scripts because each symbol in Hebrew can have more than one
meaning.
Kristal_Rose replies to Vamp_Angel
Quite true. The ancient texts are metaphors layered upon metaphors. They contain everything from
nuclear physics to models of social behavior and maps of consciousness simultaneously. They took
almost literally the notion that creation was a manifestation of angelic speech. Mathematics was a
system derived from language, which when translated back into language, continued to reveal the
presence of God in all matter.
Which of these conspiracy theories do you believe in?
1.5.23
Persephone
World is controlled by Illumianti, I swear.
Good survey, by the way
Persephone replies to Wicksy
YOU FOUND OUT THE SECRET! ::cling:: Now, I wiped out your memory, and you don't remember
anything. J/j
BrianW
TWA Flight 800 was shot down by the US Air Force
I have watched footage of the assembly of the recovered over and over again, and, while not being
an expert, not even by a longshot, the scenario presented by the NTSB just doesn't sit right.
BrianW
A problem I have, is poeple who think that becasue I beleive one or two of those, I must believe in
ALL of them. I don't. In fact I find the whole "Moon landing was fake" theory to be ridiculous. It
was concocted by eternal skeptics, who wouldn't beleive in the existence of aliens if an alien came
up and probed them.
Kristal_Rose
I'm a quite a conspiracy theorist, yet I don't particularly believe any of these are true except
perhaps the kennedy assassination.
Oh, I missed the cocaine. If Kennedy's were bootlegging during prohition, it makes some sense. I
think business has their hands in administration, and would like to see some sort of drug sold to
everyone.
Kristal_Rose replies to BrianW
I did a tarot reading on Flight 800 at the time, and only natural failure related to solar heat was
indicated.
Kristal_Rose replies to BrianW
One of my prized possessions is 1964 Mars Mariner handbook which describes all equipment specs
and the results that came back. It was really impressive what they were able to with such low tech
(for instance the camera was 200x200 pixels). They were even measuring solar flux. I figured out
how. Electron film and a timed aperature is all thats required to calculate flux speed. I was really
impressed how they modified the jupiter probe though it had been in service for a couple decades
already. They beamed it new programming to use it's tape reels as gyro stabilizer during rocket
alignment for greater accuracy to gather photos. The stuff happening 40 years later is rather mind
blowing. I had a landlord who was kicked off the design team for the lunar module (for good
reason). They wouldn't listen to his plans for a mechanically driven levitation system. It was a
rotating conch merry go round that contracted the radius of spinning balls then released their
centripetal force all at the same spot. Basically it turned rotary motion into something continually
machine gunning one spot. He had a mountain of computer simulations. There was no explaining to him
that he was missing half the formula; that there was an equal and opposite reaction occuring in the
radial contractions. He moved on to became a bridge engineer. Darby the dragonslayer we called
him. He had such as organic method of working on the house. He made the construction fit the earth,
rather than the other way around.
heyzeus1
here are some more: aliens control and run our government
global warming by means of polution is a PURPOSEFUL thing (for some reason, possibly to avert a
coming ice age or to change our atmosphere more to the needs of alien invaders)
hepatitis was created by the government to wipe out drug users
the cia imports 90% of the drugs in the u.s. to make billions of dollars 'off the books' which they
can use to buy and sell weapons and finance wars in other countries without public knowledge.
j.f.k. was killed by the limo driver and the video which showed this has been suppressed.
jim morrison, janis joplin, and jimi hendrix were murdered by the u.s. government to suppress the
'hippy' movement.
the u.s. government has discovered and is using time travel technology.
heyzeus1
SOME 'INFO' ON THE ILLUMINATI:
the illuminati group has been active in history and government for 1000 years, and has been known
as the spanish alumbradas, the french knights templar, the rosicrucians (order of the rosy cross -
aliester crowley was a member), the golden dawn society, the masons, the skulls, and the current
name comes from the secret government society formed in bavaria in the 1700's called the order
of the bavarian illuminati, founded and led by adam wieshapt. this group supposedly was run out of
bavaria and fled to the u.s. to establish a foothold of power. their descendants became the 'robber
barons', families like the rothchildes and rockerfellers, who were (and still are) aware of how to
use their enormous wealth to control society, law and government. this group invented and founded
our system of banking and credit (spending or possessing money which is not REAL), which led to
the use of paper currency (which also is not real in the sense that it is paper and holds no value) as a
means of motivation to get the people of the world to work for them. if this group exists they must
be profoundly brilliant (or perhaps immortal) to have moved society in this direction. the current
illuminati (if it exists) is believed to be the driving force behind america's tri-lateral commision, the
world banks, the imf, and most corporations and governments.
Kristal_Rose replies to heyzeus1
Yes, jpl (nasa) is sending vessels through the solar system to simulate cosmic gamma ray bursts to study the contraction and expansion of time. Just remember, there's no need to fear science because whatever it can do, we can do better or control.
You forgot Morgan, Disney, and those U.S. presidents who put Horus on the dollar bill. Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard's guru was Crowley who knew about time travel too. Perhaps there role is to dispense technology in a controlled fashion. The most ancient of alchemical documents described the virtual reconfiguration nanotechnology would be capable of. People like Bill Gates don't buy up tons of property and screw things for the average person. On the contrary, because money is created from nothing, it must return to nothing to maintain the balance. Bill can't spend his money on real things like feeding India or the money would lose it's value. His job is to destroy it, primarily by wasting it all on hyper-inflated art masterpieces. Power has migrated from land and gems to audience capture. Bill Gates of Microsoft creates MS-NBCi and a windows portal for everyone. Bill Joy of Sun provides computing power to interconnect portable devices like credit cards. The PBS show 'Beyond Human' interviews a lot of key players in that scenario.
and for whoever mentioned AID's, consider that the Bio-tech industry is our largest. The ultimate tool for doing all that research and production in culture cloning would be a virus that performs RNA replication.
What's your current employment status?
1.5.26
I just somewhat finished assembling my top projects list. http://www.ereiam.com/office/top_projects.htm and my calendar of errands and immediate projects and activities
http://www.ereiam.com/office/calendar.htm
I also have another 1200 projects on the drawing board on my personal files which are probably mostly obsolete now.
I have about 300 items on the list, where each item is something like 'build product prototype', 'learn guitar', 'garden our dirt lot', though many are short research topics like company officer involvements or learn palmistry. Many of these are self-employment plans, but I seldom stick with anything long enough to complete it. My list has been a pile of post-it notes for 6 months till just now. As soon as I straighten out some loose ends I need to auction $1400 worth of viewmasters I recently bought on credit. I was so inspired after after my annual major crying spell which happens when I thought only a couple/few months rolled by and Social-Security sends me a bunch of annual paperwork which makes me realize that other than shelving some projects and starting others, nothing's really changed. I'm still repairing the same antique waffle iron, still not leaving the house for weeks even to shop or visit the doctor at times.
I have had a few accomplishments. I'm dating again, set up a new computer (6 months later and I still have workbooks full of archives that need reformatted), done a lot of spiritual exploration, served on gov't councils, made a top notch site for a freind that could be a template for selling sites to artists and galleries.
I have one year to start making money again before my son's ready to start college. I'd also much like a home, and I'd then need a car, since it would of course be a fixer-upper (A queen anne victorian with farm zoning and a majestic view would be about right).
I was a 900 line psychic, a software engineer, a multi platform database administrator, an artist, a classic car restorer (Citroën), a burger flipper, and owned a blue-printing business as a teen.
Oh, I've done a few since short jobs since come to think of it. Somehow I forget all about the recent ones since, though professional, none of them had a hint of career about them.
I just applied as a tribal administrator a week ago.
That last form bundle got me concerned. It used terms like permanent beneficiary and didn't even ask for doctors records this time. I just finished reading 1984, and am so reminded of how the guy ends up working a few hours a week at a meaningless job, with tears of joy for all he has left, Big Brother. The book was really disturbing since the brainwashing so resembled my own spiritual path, though it showed only the dark side and not the good.
Do you weigh more now than 5 years ago?
1.5.04
Kristal_Rose
About 30 pounds more. We're comparing a life of roots and berries and theater dance classes to
the internet, hormones, and all I can eat. 6'2" 185 lb., up from 155 lb. Most of my life was spent at
175.
LoveLight
A little more...I am 7 mos. pregnant.
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
And you've decided between Orion and Noah yet?
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
Laughs...no not yet. My midwife,(I'm doing a home birth), "feels" that I am carrying a girl. I haven't
really decided until he/she arrives. Who knows? I may shout out a completely different name when
the bambino finally does arrive!!!
BTW....you're lovely!!!
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
I think she's right. I could find out. I experienced one persons pregnant state here before, but I
think if you wanted to know, you'd have found out. Just a second ago I was wondering if you were
going to answer my comment above. I'm so glad you're having a home birth. Ours was the most
precious earthly experience of my life. My recent license says 'female', but I don't like the picture
as much. On the 'life' page of my site http://www.ereiam.com is a photo from my former present
life. Most people can't believe that was me.
Thanks.
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
Oh, I felt a touch (wasn't trying). That's not too cozy on the kidneys or whatever those are up
front. Much better than the back trouble my wife suffered.
LoveLight replies to ASexyBabe
I live in Wisconsin. My midwife is a personal midwife. She is not licensed by the state, therefore
there are no birthing centers here in this state. I'm truly blessed to have found her, For I was
working with a midwife from a clinic. She was a nice woman, but I would have still been giving birth in
a hospital, she couldn't assure me that she would be there when i gave birth, they weren't really
flexable with what I wanted to do. For example, I had asked if I was allowed to squat if I wanted
to squat or if I wanted to do anything besides the traditional lying down to give birth, and she had
said that I was allowed to move around during contractions, but I was supposed to be lying down.
There were other things that didn't please me as well. but the woman I have is WONDERFUL!!!
I had thought about a water birth. I still think that it would be wonderful, but my muscles seem to
cramp up and a feeling of wanting to crawl outta my skin overwhelms me when I'm in water to
long,strange since I'm a water sign.
I think that it's wonderful as to what you want to do. Just stay firm in all of your choices, and don't
let some doctor try to discourage you from what you want. Good luck to you and I'm excited for you
too!!!
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
*smile*...yes I'm VERY thankful for a back pain free pregnancy. My torso is short, so I get the feet
up under my ribs. Yeah, not too cozy!!!
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
Holy cow!!! I just visited your site,(my favorite site,BTW), I really am tripped out that that was you
in your prior life. AMAZING! *smile*
ASexyBabe replies to LoveLight
Well they say that the pain is much less in the water and From waterbirths I have seen that seems
to be the case. Thats why I want one, and the fact that it is gentler on the baby.
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
Though I'd dearly love to get pregnant, borrowing the experience for a minute makes me a nervous
wreck from excessive protective thinking.
Thanks, few people ever compliment my site. It's got such a long way to go.
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
Yeah...throughout the majority of my life my song was NEVER NEVER NEVER will I be a mother or
do I want to be a mother. The one thing that I always wanted to be was an auntie. Well, I finally
have a niece, who is now 15 months old, and after I had finally met her, which wasn't until she was 4
months old, my song changed. it changed to Well, if it's supposed to be, it shall be. Then in October,
I was meditating one day, and a new soul was around me, and I knew who it was. So I said, if you
want to join our family, you may for you will be loved and welcomed. Well...so here I am w/ that
precious beautiful soul awaiting to be born in the flesh.
I feel sort of guilty throughout this whole pregnancy. For I haven't experienced the "typical"
pregnancy symptoms, such as a.m. sickness, back pain, etc. But my organs ARE being used as musical
instruments which is pretty uncomfortable.
Are you able to get pregnant???
I think that you would make a wonderful mother if you are able to. I know that you are a VERY
caring and nurturing person.
I LOVE the windchimes that play on your site. The whole thing has such a warm and welcoming feel
to it. I understand about it not nearly being completed. I have much artwork that is "done", but not
nearly "completed".
LoveLight replies to ASexyBabe
Thanks...*smile*
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
Wow, that's so neat. I've never even heard of that before. I knew exactly what my daughter would
be like a dozen years before she was born. not until the laws of transformative biology change.
maybe. i believe anythings possible.
you should post your art too.
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
btw Do you have very long, very straight, very light hair, and a slender face with pronounced lips? I
saw someone in my meditation like that last night. I thought it might be dabprovin, but your comment
is striking a chord.
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
My hair is currently short, for I had dread locks not that long ago. I guess my spirit has long hair
still and yes it is light it color, but I have a natural wave to it that gets more pronounced w/ the
length. Yes, my face is more on the slender side, but I would say that my eyes are more pronounced
than my lips.
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
I'm sort of nervous about posting my art anywhere.For a minute there,I was working w/ my friend
learning to create websites,(she owns her own web hosting company),and I was going to create my
own and put my art up on there. BUT, that never actually happened. I guess you can say that I am
my worst critic, and I have this thing that I think that "everyone" else will be as big as a critic as
myself.
The only artsy stuff that I've been doing L8LY is making greeting cards with collages adorning the
front and leaving the inside blank. I was wanting to get my hands on a scanner so I would be able to
"mass produce" them and find a way to distribute them. But, that isn't happening right now either,
there is a lot of other stuff on my plate that needs my attention first.
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
Maybe it was Cleo.
If they have any texture, (doilies or something), or glitter or paint, you're much better off hiring
amputees in a czechoslovakian cave, or handmaking them yourself and charging more. Handmade
collage cards sell in California for $4-$10 depending on whether the paper is also handmade, or
other special techniques are used. Scanners are quite fun though. I used to be my worst critic too.
Lately I haven't given myself any time for art (other than learning guitar).
LoveLight replies to Kristal_Rose
*Laugh*...I mostly work in 2-D. The only 3-D stuff that I "have time" for is necklaces and what-not,
but those are pretty personal.
Do you live in northern or southern California? I have a friend, who is in town at the moment, who
lives near Arcada. Would LOVE to be able to go visit her out there. I NEED to see a redwood
before I leave this world.
We also know a couple who lives in Oja. But i don't know much about that area, same w/ Long
Beach,(my cousin lives there).
Scanners are quite fun. I was able to use one when I was working to become a computer nerd.
How's the guitar coming??? My hubby plays. he's pretty wonderful. He has NEVER taken a lesson
or anything and he simply plays by ear. We were in the market for a banjo or something for him. I
think that he is sort of bored w/ the regular ole acoustic. I am a percussionist. I took piano lessons
when I was 8. Learned a lot, but not enough to play "out loud". We had a big upright piano and then
an electronic keyboard, which had an outlet for headphones...used it a lot. I would love to be able to
play the guitar, but I think that I should leave the strings to him. Good luck with your process!!!
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
Like this Redwood when I traveled up the coast bicycle camping and lived with a redwood artist. Notice the mother and daughter elf doing chores in town, and the troll overlooking.
and more photos from that trip at Jenner. I now stare at a beautiful slab of redwood burl that sits behind my computer. Arcadia wasn't far from there. You should go. Ojai is more a combo of japanese print hills, ranch chapparal, and easter gardens with wisterias. It seems they are best known for spiritual retreats and horse yuppies. Long Beach, ancient international shipping port with no tourists. I can imagine you folks doing well in Boulder Creek, Santa Cruz co., CA, or if you you can handle an art community enchanted mountain ghosttown over looking a rainbow walled desert, then Jerome, AZ, the place I want to live next.
Guitar: I described this too many times already. I studied bass with theory and sheet reading 20 years ago but had no flow till years later on the harmonica. This time, within 2 mystic hours, both hands were running up and down the fretboard like sandcrabs, each hammer, scrape, and pluck harmoniously whimsically expressive. Going back to the intellectual work of playing scales and concentrated notes has been slow going though. That same first (& 2nd) night I had a singing jam with a cricket that was prety intense too. Why don't you folks make a wood dobro or something. Wood veneer steams for shaping & lamination easily by just connecting a vinyl hose to where the rocker spout sat on a pressure cooker. Improvising music together, even with kitchen utensils, can be better than making love when you get into the spirit, and come just as naturally. Headphones, Bah.
Kristal_Rose replies to LoveLight
I don't recall all the signs you listed, but you seem as much (if not more) air than water, and hardly fire or earth at all.
Should devices be put into schools, theatres, etc. that can jam a cell/ mobile
phone so it is unable to be used? 1.5.13
Kristal_Rose
and markets, and busses, and malls, and homes, and..
I was in line at the post office, and the person ahead of me was on a phone oblivious, so i just took
the next window, it then happened again behind me and another postal employee yell to her "were
running a business here." I still can't see how these people drive.
albert replies to dabprovin
(All my 'you's here are meant to be general).
You know, each and every one of us has delusions of grandeur.
It is a fundamental part of the survival instinct to believe that there is something... different...
special... about *you*. Sure, there are VERY rare cases of individuals entirely overcoming this
delusion (1 in 20 people?), but if you think you are one of them... you probably are just having
another delusion of grandeur.
Partly because of the hard-wiring of the brain that keeps our genes alive from generation to
generation, partly because of the experience bias (People are more likely to compliment you than to
criticize you), partly because of your mother/s.o./whoever who continually reinforces the belief,
you think you are special.
Of course, more often than not, the belief is wrong. And even important people feel more important
than they really are.
Life is all about feeling good, and if it makes people feel good, to carry a cell phone, because it
makes them feel important, and they like feeling important, then why not? BFD if you ask me. People
just trying to feel good, and here we are... talking them down.
Kristal_Rose replies to albert
You mean we can't all be special? How sad.
I know I usually can't concentrate when surrounded by other speech unless I turn it into an
extension of my own thoughts, and so I either wait for a person using their cell to pass by before
selecting my groceries, or listen in and realize that in fact I myself need detergent and potatoes as
well. I liked your "not talk them down".
You seem to be making great headway with this "importance" issue.
joalis replies to Kristal_Rose
Do you have to do the same thing when two people are passing by having a conversation?
joalis replies to albert
But everyone *is* special and different. I'd say for almost half the statistical 'rules' out there, I
am an exception. I'm sure that's true with other folks as well. People who 'beat the odds' are
special and different. We are all a product of our experiences. If you ever experienced anything
unusual, that will be reflected in who you are. There are also people who were not complimented a
whole lot growing up, and who were always picked on. Do you think they think they are special?
joalis replies to notreally
Wow. I didn't know the devil had a cell phone. I wonder if he gets many prank calls.
Kristal_Rose replies to joalis
Yes, I have to go on hold when anyone else is speaking, or assimilate them. I can carry one-on-one
conversations with people, but not more than that.
Kristal_Rose replies to joalis
So why did you ask? Did you have any curiosity or opinion on the matter?
joalis replies to Kristal_Rose
Just curious. Some people can't stand hearing people talk on a cell phone, but don't mind hearing
both sides of a conversation. Just wondering if you were like that, because I want to know what
people think the difference is. But I see you aren't like that.
Kristal_Rose replies to msgman
I worked at one place a few years ago where they gave out pagers as a sign of appreciation. Those
wise ones who preferred to control their own work flow knew better than to accept one.
The internet reminds me to make the make the most of neighbors and interactions with people one
meets during errands.
juliw replies to Kristal_Rose
I absolutely agree with you about buses, malls, grocery stores, etc. I find it very annoying when
someone literally walks right into me at the mall because they are too engrossed in their phone
conversation. I think I sure hope they don't drive like they walk. I still find it surprising when I see
kids about 14 years old walking around the mall talking on their cell phones. What ever happened to
actually going shopping WITH your friend? I must just be getting old.
Kristal_Rose replies to juliw
I got a cell phone when I thought I was going to hang out at the beach doing Tarot readings
between waves. I quickly decided it was useless and gave it to a friend. When I'm not home, it's
because I have something else on my mind and wouldn't want a call disrupting the experience at a
time when I couldn't give the caller full attention anyhow. I think the young are in scan and skim
mode, seeking novel intensity rather than depth and saturation of experience. Perhaps they all carry
phones now and you only notice when they're alone, and hence using it. My mom still gets ancy about
talking long distance for long, because it was an expensive privelage when she was growing up.
Because of her, I waste time washing ziplock baggies. On the other hand, because of her, I've
learned to live quite lavishly on $800 mo. I don't see that 20 year newer TV's work any better.
Whenever I need something like a postal scale my first question is always "can I make one myself?".
Whatever I make has to be piece of art of course. I want to make a trackball from my crystal ball
and a keyboard sculpted from wood or stone with keys made of tiny metaphysical knick-knacks that
match the significance of the letters. My phone glows in blue neon to remind me of the virgin mary
and astral flights.
You had a comment I couldn't interpret in a qualifying survey.
I have a chat friend who's VP of a top ad firm that is aiming at exactly those kids. My girlfriend
thinks it's a good idea. She likes calling while driving to ask directions to the nearest store-X. You
notice they don't say that anymore. They can advertise two products at once and have you ignore
the rest. For that matter commercials are background for the following commercial. Even PBS
programming is full of cigarette ads.
joalis replies to juliw
Hey, going shopping alone does have it's advantages. You can look at what you want, when you want,
and don't have to worry about someone hurrying you along or slowing you down. Right now I'm being
begged to go to the hobby store. Why would anyone want someone to be there who doesn't want to?
How fun is that?
juliw replies to Kristal_Rose
I know what you mean about being frugal in some ways and trying to live beyond our means in others
because of our moms.Yesterday, my uncle from Oklahoma called us (in Ohio). After about 30
seconds, my mom said well this is your dime, so hang up, and I will call you back. Your phone and the
idea for your keyboard sound cool. If I had any artistic talent whatsoever, I would make some
things. I carry my lunch to work in drug store bags, then go to the mall and spend $50.00 on toys
for a 6-yr-old cousin. Go figure!
juliw replies to joalis
Oh, I love to go shopping by myself. It is much more fun. I just meant since they are shopping alone,
why not enjoy it, rather than talking to their friend on the phone all the time? But, I think Kristal
Rose had a good point when she said that younger people are more in a skim and scan mode.
juliw replies to Kristal_Rose
Oh! I meant to ask you, what comment did I make in qual that you did not interpret?
joalis replies to juliw
Maybe they are. But I get like that too sometimes. Most of the time I like to examine one thing in
depth and experience it fully (I'm not just talking shopping) but sometimes I like to do 5 things at
once, and not take any time on anything. Sometimes it's nice to skim the surface and not give
anything your full attention.
Kristal_Rose replies to juliw
You agreed twisty & someone else about a line I should change and how surveycentral should not be
capitalized. Curious though was that the things they had commented on were already gone when you
got there.
I love buying kids toys. I spent $80 on a very practical versatile creative set of baby shower stuff
for a neighbor I hardly knew, and I too use plastic grocery bags for lunches, rewrapping cheese,
garbage pails, etc.
Kristal_Rose replies to juliw
Ah, I recall a lot of fun phone stories. I used to do my own phone installations whe I was 8, long before that was legal. By 11, I had the whole apartment connected to my phone (although listening in on neighbors turned out to be really boring). My friend & I would do things like spend a dime to call each other from adjacent phone booths and talk all afternoon. Too much 'Get Smart', I guess. I had to install a second line at one turn of the century apt. bldg. in oakland to do a 900 psychic line. It would have entailed drilling through everyones locked garages. I noticed though that the junction pipes for what was once central refrigeration (two copper tubes were crimped in one of my kitchen cabinets) were in the laundry basement near the phone junction box, so I vacuumed a thread through to pull a string to pull a phone line through the tube.
juliw replies to Kristal_Rose
Yeah, I remember doing that in qual. It was just an oversight on my part. I was voting on the
surveys, and got lazy or distracted or something, and just decided to agree with the others. I went
back later, and voted the survey reasonable/good. I liked your phone story. How did you learn to do
all that at such an early age? I still wouldn't know how to wire a phone, but then i have never tried.
When I was a kid, an aunt of mine (she died when I was nine) had a party line which she shared with
the lady across the street. My cousins and I would do things like run across the street, and call
ourselves on the phone. Well, actually, we tried it once. The second time, I called and asked for
Julie in the deepest voice I could make, and she said,"Sorry, Julie is over at Mrs. Ashley's house
using the phone." I hung up as fast as I could and ran across the street. My aunt was on the porch
waiting for me, and told me I had just missed an important call. I said it was probably my parents.
She just laughed, and said we both knew who it was.
Kristal_Rose replies to juliw
Witty aunt. I've only seen a party once when I was visitng the country. It was used as intercom more than anything else. I forget how you even do that. I taught my neighbor to install a phone jack. It's only 2 wires and screw into the wall. It was 4 when I was a kid: Red & green for the voice, and black and yellow for the ringer. I had it hooked up to my hoge old Zenith Cobramatic turntable/amp cabinet so I could broadcast peoples calls all over the neighborhood. My step-dad (Earland Smith) was kind of like Mr. Smith from 'lost in space', and uncle martin from 'My Favorite Martian' {boy, what a dream life is}. He taught me how to make phonographs, jacobs ladders, tesla coils, van-de-graph generators, and other stuff by age 8 (and electrical circuitry when we met at age 5). By 8, I had read most of the public libraries engineering section including TV repair, steam engineering, cryptography, player piano construction, etc. as well as some works of Jules Verne like 'the mysterious island' and '20000 leagues beneath the sea'. Back as a teen when computers were punchcards and teletype posters I saw that VR was coming and if I were to be the next Walt Disney, that would be the way. Disney called lately. They asked almost immediately "Can you do every step of designing a theme park". I was happy to answer yes, but I didn't care to do anything except the conceptual work. It's a good thing too. I'm almost certain that they wanted my help on 'California Adventure', which would have meant extreme deadline work which I hate and fail at. I do have a new attraction concept I might try to sell them though. I once tied to sell software concepts to the VP of their studios, and had the most awful railroaded close minded negotiation I've ever encountered.